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Gerald Lee
New member Username: paycojoe
Post Number: 1 Registered: 05-2011
| Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 12:20 am: |
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I have a pair of Graymarine engines in my 32" Trojan 1962 fireball V8 178hp flywheel forward # S6688-1 are these engines AMC? where can i get parts timing gear sets etc.... |
Jim Staib
Senior Member Username: drrot
Post Number: 84 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 07:40 am: |
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Most likely they are Rambler/AMC 287CID. Internal parts are often the same as automotive. Search in HEMMINGS the old car book. |
Gerald Lee
New member Username: paycojoe
Post Number: 2 Registered: 05-2011
| Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 01:55 pm: |
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Thanks Jim I thought so but i kept seeing "fireball" as a GM engine in Wikipedia anyway thank you for the help Payco |
Brad Hunter
Member Username: silverghost
Post Number: 18 Registered: 05-2009
| Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2011 - 06:25 pm: |
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The Graymarine Fireball V-8C 178 was only a 250 Cubic inch American Motors Corp. based engine. Fireballs were also built in 287,& 327 cubic inch models. But the 178 HP models were only 250 cubic inches. This I know for sure as fact. It was a very good engine. They were built & sold from 1957- 1968 only. Later Graymarine engines were not based on the AMC base auto engine. Dad & I owned one for over 30 years. I have many old NEW & older Graymarine Fireball parts just sitting on our old spares shelf in our basement. Call me with you needs. I can supply much information also. NAPA Auto stores sell the timing chains & gear sets. They are known for streaching and throwing off your engine timing & performance. The large cam gear with nylon plastic teeth is a weak link also. Brad Hunter (Near Philadelphia) 1 215 947 4676 [email protected] |
Jim Staib
Senior Member Username: drrot
Post Number: 85 Registered: 09-2008
| Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 11:42 am: |
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Brad Hunter
Member Username: silverghost
Post Number: 20 Registered: 05-2009
| Posted on Monday, May 16, 2011 - 12:22 pm: |
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There should be a brass engine ID tag that will give you the engine data. Graymarine used some odd carburator combiations such single & dual Carter 1 barrel YH side-drafts, carter 2 barrels, and carter AFB/AVS 4 barrels. What does the ID tag say on your Fireball & what is it's carb set-up ? This will help pin-down what you really have there. |
Gerald Lee
New member Username: paycojoe
Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2011
| Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 01:07 pm: |
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Thank you Brad The engines have "YH" side draft carbs the tag on the intake manifold has the # S6688-1 it is a 31" 1962 Trojan im still not really sure what model it is. I was getting ready to pull the star, engine to change the main seals and pan gaskets to stop an oil leak, ten the timing change jumped a tooth ih the port engine, so i need to nail this all down and find the right parts |
Brad Hunter
Member Username: silverghost
Post Number: 21 Registered: 05-2009
| Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 12:11 am: |
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Your engine is a 1956-1968 AMC V-8 engine. Timing Morse Chain & gearsets can be bought at NAPA auto parts and also Chrysler/Jeep Dealers. The original camshaft gears were aluminum or pot-metal with nylon plastic teeth . They often break & the chains get very loose . |