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| F. G. Co., Cambridge, Mass |
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keith
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Username: keith
Post Number: 131
Registered: 02-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 04:34 pm: | 
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There is an engine posted on Harry's site. They are calling it a Fairbanks-Grant, but the only identification is F.G. Co. Cambridge, Mass. on the inspection hole covers. It has some likeness to a marine engine but does have two flywheels. It's a small vertical 4 stroke engine. Does anyone have any info on this engine? |
richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee
Post Number: 479
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 06:56 pm: |
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Keith
All the mfgs indexes and info that I have on Fairbanks - Grant Marine engines say they were made in Ithaca N.Y.! |
bruce
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Username: bruce
Post Number: 202
Registered: 07-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:58 pm: |
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Any chance It's a forunner of Grant and Ferris in Troy NY? G&F/F&G?? How about it Bob Price- what's the Grant Ferris history here? Was the Howard a Cambridge Ma based company at one time? |
ernie
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Username: ernie
Post Number: 386
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 07:44 am: |
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F and G was Fitzhenry and Guptil (spelling)
They made orchard spraying equipment. Most are from Cambridge but some have another city name near Boston. Can't remember which right now. Yes they do look like marine engines. They are quite common in New England. Some are headless and some have removable heads. Most had a large drip oiler with a large single glass and 4 or 5 needle valves to adjust the individual oil lines. I havn't seen one with a govenor. They had a rather nice brass carb with a fine adjustable throttle quadrant.
Hope this helps
Ernie |
rbprice
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Username: rbprice
Post Number: 156
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 09:55 pm: |
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As usual, Ernie has nailed it. As for Grant-Ferris, they were a machinery dealer in Green Island, NY (part of Albany County just west of Troy). They never made marine engines. The two cylinder Howard/Grant-Ferris that I have was made by W. J. Howard whose name comes up in places like Peekskill and Yonkers, NY and Philadelphia, PA but other than that, his history remains elusive. |
keith
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Username: keith
Post Number: 135
Registered: 02-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 07:43 am: |
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Bob
What do you know about "Fairbanks-Grant" of Ithaca,NY? |
rbprice
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Username: rbprice
Post Number: 158
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:51 pm: |
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Nothing at all Keith. G-F was in business from ca 1895 to ca 1910. I spent some time in the Rensellaer County Historical Society library today and found where G-F were located in Green Island. Do you know if the Grant from G-F is the same as the Grant from F-G? |
keith
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Username: keith
Post Number: 137
Registered: 02-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 07:54 am: |
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Bob
I don't know if there was any relationship. |
Chuck Franklin
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| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 05:32 pm: |
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F.G. Co. Cambridge, Mass I saw this engine at Berryville engine show yesterday. It looks like a marine engine that was set up as a stationary engine. The owner said it cam out of TN. Can anyone help with the Id. |
ernie
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Username: ernie
Post Number: 392
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 08:02 pm: |
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Chuck,
Look at my previous post. Even the oiler is as I described. Most had one solid flywheel however this one has the optional spoked ones.
Hope this helps
Ernie |
ernie
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Username: ernie
Post Number: 393
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 08:05 pm: |
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Here it is "stood up"
This one doesn't have the correct carb either. It appears to have a Schlebler instead of a little brass sidedraft one.
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Peters
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| | Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 08:24 am: |
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Found this little bit on Grant-Ferris engines last week:
The Grant-Ferris Co., makers of the Howard Hydro-Carbon motors have a rather novel and practical method for disposing of same. A crate is equipped with a 3-1/2 horse-power motor, fully finished and nickel plated. This is so arranged that it can be shipped by express and on arrival at destination the removal of a couple of screws leaves motor set up on a substantial base, which forms the bottom of the crate. The corners of the crate are utilized as receptacles for a small tank of gasoline, battery and spark coil. A rubber tube connection is slipped onto gasoline supply, the two wires leading from crate to engine connect the battery, and in less than five minutes apparatus is in running order. In January last, Mr. Howard visited the Detroit Boat Works with the above outfit, operating motor in a cold room, outside of which there was a blinding snow storm, and although the water near motor was frozen, no difficulty was experienced in operating motor. The ease with which same was started was illustrated numberless times by placing toe on starting handle and giving wheel a single push with the foot. This was done to such an extent that the parties were convinced it was not a condition of chance, but that it worked every time. Features that surprised the Detroit people most, were, not only the perfect control, but the removing of spark plug and squirting fully a teaspoon of oil inside on the inner sparking point, as well as putting oil all over the other point, placing same together, and then starting motor off on first turn. To show that the quantity of oil in the base or mixed in the generator valve did no particular harm, oil was turned in generator valve, while the engine was running. The motor was stopped, the top of generator valve removed and a considerable quantity of oil poured in the same, the valve cap returned to place and motor put under headway without being effected by the extra supply of oil. After the above showing, it was not surprising that Mr. Howard left the Detroit Boat Works with an order calling for five 1-1/2 horse-power; six 2-1/2 horse-power; six 3-1/2 horse-power; six 5-horse-power; two 7-horse-power; two 10-horse-power and two special 5-horse-power motors. The experience in Detroit was only a repetition of what took place in a number of other cities they have visited.
Rudder, Vol. XII, No. 5, May 1901. pp. 248-249. |
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