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Keith Billet
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Username: keith

Post Number: 151
Registered: 02-2002


Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just picked up this Three Cylinder Copper Top Engine. There is no name tag or number to identify the engine. There are several features that suggest it is a performance engine. One, it has removable plugs in the exhaust system for straight exhaust pipes. Two, it has castle nuts bolting the cylinders to the base. It is of lightweight design with aluminum used for the base and intake manifold. The exhaust manifold is cast iron with a copper jacket soldered around 3/4's of the manifold (no core cast for water). It has a 1-1/2 inch 5 ball Kingston Carb and a Bosch Mag. The mag and water pump are driven by bevel gears. The pump from the rear and the mag from the front. I can send better pictures.
Keith,
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Roger DiRuscio
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Username: solarrog

Post Number: 208
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for posting these, It will look great after polishing and painting
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William Schaller
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Username: billschaller

Post Number: 93
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great looking motor. Do you know the area it is from? Those 3 cylinder mags are a little hard to come by, too.
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J.B. Castagnos
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Username: jb_castagnos

Post Number: 188
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice find Keith, I agree it's a high performance engine, looks like another 2 port-3 port.
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 1271
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keith


Great engine ! I believe its a 1910-11 ERD MOTOR CO. Saginaw Mich.

I will be back home tomorrow or Wed and confirm it and post what info i have !
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Ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 479
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Richard. The cast iron piece between the cylinder and manifold shure looks Erd. Richard can you take a pic of your single and post it?
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 1273
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ernie

Found the ERD photos in the archives Feb 2004, see post !! looks to be same 2/3 port intake !
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Keith Billet
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Username: keith

Post Number: 152
Registered: 02-2002


Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is a better view of the intake.
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Ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 481
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is the pic of the 2/3 port manifold on Richards Erd single.
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 1274
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ERD Triple - June 1911



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Keith Billet
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Username: keith

Post Number: 153
Registered: 02-2002


Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the posting an ad copy Richard.
It is always nice when a neat motor, without a tag, can be identified, especially when you own it.
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 1277
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Erd six cylinder 60 Hp July 1912


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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 1281
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keith

Haven't found any more info on your specific copper dome engine, from ads it seems that these engs came on the market mid year 1911.
This is the high speed erd that preceeded it 1910 to mid 1911.

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These Erd 2/3 port engs had slots or ports in the sides of the pistons - the 2 port crankcase fuel went up through the piston and out into the cylinder ports !

This is the overhead valved eng that succeeded the copper domes, late 1913 or 14.


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Keith Billet
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Username: keith

Post Number: 154
Registered: 02-2002


Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's an ERD I don't own, but wish I did.
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 1283
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now if this doesn't stir your blood Then you've mistakenly stumbled onto this web site!

Keith Great stuff Thanks for photos !!
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Sindre Nilsen
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Username: wichmann

Post Number: 2
Registered: 03-2006


Posted on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I`v got an old "race-boat", and dont have any race engine like this, 3 or 4 cyl. aprx. 30 hp. Is there possilble to bay any one, in an ok condition?
If not, I`m interessted in catlog or drawings of this kind of "race-engine".
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Robert
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Username: robert

Post Number: 138
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What a find! Seal it up and take it to the soda blaster for the quickest clean up.
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Foxman
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Posted on Friday, November 10, 2006 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The black Erd is mine. It is a 1910 34 hp model which cam out of "the fastest boat on the Hudson" [River in New York], This was part of a collection of a tugboat Captain who picked up engines while he visited various ports along the said river. The engine is in almost perfect original condition and needs no restoration.
Now all I need is that "fastest boat". Carbs are Holley.
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 1323
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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ERD December 1910


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